The Rainmaking Podcast

In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Amy Malo, professional certified coach, about navigating career transitions with clarity, courage, and confidence. Amy, who has extensive experience in both internal and third-party legal recruiting, shares insights on how professionals can take control of their careers rather than simply following opportunities that come their way. She explains that career inflection points—moments when professionals feel misaligned with their work—are natural and should be seen as opportunities for reassessment and growth.

Key topics include recognizing the signs of an inflection point, conducting self-assessments to identify core values, key skills, and ideal work environments, and creating a career plan similar to a business strategy. Amy discusses the importance of choosing rather than feeling trapped in a career path, reframing career decisions with intentionality, and managing external pressures from family or societal expectations. She also shares actionable strategies for professionals considering a lateral move, including how to evaluate opportunities, align career choices with long-term goals, and avoid the pitfalls of counteroffers. This episode provides a structured approach to career management for professionals seeking fulfillment, growth, and long-term success.

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As an Executive and Career Coach, Strategic Talent Management Consultant, and Experienced Recruiter with over three decades in the legal field, I empower clients to navigate challenges, set meaningful goals, and actualize their professional aspirations with clarity, courage, and confidence.

Links:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/amy-berenson-mallow/

https://talent-success.org/

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Charlene Gisele, professional coach and burnout prevention expert, about how high-performing professionals—especially in the legal industry—can prevent burnout and thrive in their careers. Charlene shares her insights on recognizing the early warning signs of burnout, such as behavioral changes, strained relationships, and physical health issues, emphasizing that burnout doesn’t happen overnight but leaves “breadcrumbs” along the way. She explains that by noticing these subtle shifts early, professionals can take proactive steps to prevent burnout before it leads to serious health or personal consequences.

Key topics include identifying behavioral shifts like increased reliance on unhealthy coping mechanisms, the impact of burnout on relationships and team dynamics, and practical strategies for sustainable recovery. Charlene outlines adaptive behaviors such as prioritizing quality sleep, engaging in physical activities, and adopting mindful practices like meditation and self-hypnosis. She also highlights the importance of treating personal health like a business by tracking key health metrics and conducting regular behavioral audits. This episode offers actionable advice for rainmakers and high achievers looking to balance intense workloads with sustainable, healthy lifestyles.

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At Charlène Gisèle®, I partner with professionals and leading organisations to achieve sustainable high-performance and burnout prevention.

🔹 Our Approach: Using our unique and CPD accredited ‘Sustainable High Performance’ method, clients achieve enhanced well-being and productivity, balancing personal and professional lives.

🔹 Experience-Driven: My background as a Big Law litigator, combined with Master certifications in NLP, Business, and Health Coaching, shapes our tailored guidance.

🔹 Recognition: Our methods have been featured in leading publications such as the The Financial Times, The Times, and BBC Radio.

Client Benefits:

✅ Burnout Prevention: Tailored strategies for industry-specific challenges.

✅ Leadership Growth: Unlocking leadership potential.

✅ Emotional Resilience: Strategies to maintain composure and performance in high-pressure environments.

✅ Speaking Engagements: Delivering Award-winning keynotes on well-being and performance.

Links:

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Janet Falk, founder of Falk Communications, about how professionals can maximize their time and networking opportunities at conferences. Janet shares expert strategies for preparing before an event, engaging effectively during the conference, and following up afterward to build lasting business relationships. She emphasizes that conferences are not just about attending sessions but about making meaningful connections that can lead to new business and valuable referrals.

Key topics include how to research and reach out to key attendees and speakers in advance, using LinkedIn and membership directories to set up meetings, and leveraging informal networking opportunities such as coffee breaks, meals, and receptions. Janet also shares practical tips on asking insightful questions during panel discussions, strategically using business cards and branded materials, and following up with personalized messages to maintain relationships after the event. This episode provides a comprehensive framework for professionals looking to turn conferences into powerful business development opportunities.

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Janet Falk, Ph.D., is a Communications professional with more than 30 years of experience in-house, as a consultant and at public relations agencies. As Chief Strategist at Falk Communications and Research (www.JanetLFalk.com), she advises attorneys at small law firms and with a solo practice on Media Relations and Marketing Communications to: attract new clients, remain top of mind with prior clients, keep in touch with referral sources, help recruit associates, generate a news story about litigation that puts pressure on opposing counsel and achieve business goals. Janet leads workshops on these topics and advises on media relations, website, LinkedIn profile, articles in non-legal industry trade publications and client newsletters, among other areas. She has published articles on Media Relations and Marketing in The New York Law Journal, The New Jersey Law Journal and Marketing the Law Firm and is a frequent speaker on webinars and podcasts about Public Relations, Networking and Legal Marketing. Speak with her for a complimentary Strategic Communication Session (30-minute consultation) to assess your Communications activity and online presence. She guarantees TWO IDEAS.

Links:

Website: https://www.Janetlfalk.com

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with David Ackert, business development expert and author of The Short List, about how professionals can focus on high-value relationships to grow their book of business. David explains the concept of applying the Pareto Principle (80/20 rule) to networking, where 80% of results come from just 20% of relationships. By identifying and nurturing a select group of key clients, referral sources, and prospects, professionals can maximize their impact without wasting time on low-yield connections.

Key topics include defining a “short list” of 9 to 35 key relationships, strategically engaging with those contacts to drive business opportunities, and using data-backed insights to optimize networking efforts. David shares practical steps on how to track and maintain these relationships, ensuring consistent follow-up and meaningful engagement. He also highlights the importance of relationship-building over transactional networking and explains how to create authentic connections that lead to long-term success. This episode provides a clear, structured approach to business development for professionals looking to streamline their efforts and see measurable results.

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David is Co-Founder and CEO of Ackert, Inc. and its subsidiary, PipelinePlus. He is a highly regarded business development thought leader. Over the past two decades, David has pioneered revenue acceleration programs for hundreds of professional services firms around the globe.

He is the founder of several groundbreaking ventures in the industry, including Legal Lift, the MLR100, the MLR200, BDI, numerous Managing Partner Roundtables, and the PipelinePlus software suite. His programs have won “Your Honor Awards” in both the U.S. and Canada, and his software has been featured in NLJ’s “Technologies on the Rise.” David regularly keynotes at partner retreats and speaks at industry conferences. He also serves as a guest lecturer at USC’s Marshall School of Business, Carnegie Mellon University, and at the UCLA School of Law.

David is the author of The Short List: How to Drive Business Development by Focusing on the People who Matter Most, published by Greenleaf. He has contributed quotes and articles to numerous media including the Los Angeles Times, the National Review, the Daily Journal, the Wall Street Journal, Above the Law, Attorney at Work, Law.com, The Recorder, and the Los Angeles Business Journal. His Market Leaders Podcast has won several JD Supra Reader’s Choice Awards.

David volunteers as a Big Brother with the Big Brothers and Sisters program in Los Angeles. He is also the co-founder of Voices in Harmony, a mentoring organization that has worked with at-risk youth around the globe. He co-produced and appeared in the documentary film, “After Kony: Staging Hope,” chronicling mentoring programs he helped to design and facilitate for former child soldiers in Northern Uganda. The film was used as part of an awareness-raising campaign that raised millions of dollars for health and education in underserved Ugandan communities. David’s charitable work earned the “Difference Maker” award from one of his alma maters, Ithaca College.

David holds a master’s in psychology and is a Fellow at the College of Law Practice Management.

Links:

Order The Short List here: https://pipelineplus.com/theshortlist/

www.PipelinePlus.com

https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidackert/

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Mark C. Fava, a seasoned aviation lawyer, retired Navy captain, and author of Lessons from the Admiral, about how to build a thriving legal practice from the ground up. Mark shares the story of how he pivoted from being Delta Airlines’ chief operations attorney during 9/11 to returning to private practice in South Carolina—where he had to start over and build his book of business from scratch.

Mark outlines the deliberate strategies he used to position himself as the go-to aviation lawyer in his region, including writing targeted articles, speaking at niche conferences, and becoming a visible and reliable contributor in key legal associations. He explains how volunteering for the least desirable job (like fundraising for an ABA section) helped fast-track his leadership credibility and ultimately led to speaking engagements and board positions. He also discusses how publishing thought leadership—no matter how small the outlet—boosted his visibility and credibility over time, attracting both clients and media.

Mark emphasizes the importance of aligning your brand with your passions, targeting specific niches where you can own mindshare, and focusing on long-term relationship-building over short-term gains. He shares tactical advice for new rainmakers, including how to leverage Google search visibility, create a content calendar, and cultivate media relationships through punchy, quotable commentary.

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Mark C. Fava is a career aviation lawyer and retired naval flight officer. He is a prolific writer and entertaining speaker. Mark retired from the US Navy as a captain, having commanded three units, including an aviation squadron. He has been a law firm partner and a corporate executive lawyer. As a law school adjunct professor, he has also taught aviation law and legal writing.

Mark was the chief operations attorney at Delta Air Lines on 9/11 and spent years in the Navy’s P-3 Orion chasing Soviet submarines. He has practiced law for over thirty years and is currently a vice president at the world’s largest aerospace company.

He lives in his hometown of Charleston, South Carolina, with his wife and three daughters. When not working, reading, or writing, Mark enjoys life in the low country and appreciates a cold glass of sweet tea in the summer and a good oyster roast in the fall.

His first book, “Lessons from the Admiral, Naval Wisdom and Sea Stories for Leaders” was an Amazon New Release Bestseller in January of 2025.

Links:

https://markcfava.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/markcfava/

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Michael Frino and Katie Desiderio, co-authors of The Beekeeper: Pollinating Your Organization for Transformative Growth, about how leaders can cultivate a high-performance culture within their organizations. Drawing insights from their research on beekeeping, they explore how leaders can optimize their “hives” by fostering collaboration, self-awareness, and meaningful work. They emphasize that culture starts with leadership and requires humility, self-reflection, and a commitment to unlearning old habits.

Key topics include the importance of self-awareness in leadership, replacing the golden rule with the platinum rule (treating others as they want to be treated), and making challenging decisions to maintain a healthy organizational environment. Michael and Katie also highlight the concept of “pollinating” an organization by prioritizing growth and learning at all levels and creating psychologically safe environments where individuals can thrive. This episode offers practical strategies for leaders who want to build stronger, more cohesive teams and drive transformative growth in their organizations.

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Michael G. Frino always was told he was creative and had a vivid imagination during his childhood. He parlayed this feedback by finding a passion for writing and storytelling. He published his first poem in 1993 entitled The Human Tree and is the author of Welcome to Waycool School (2010) and Waycool School Takes the Bus (2011) children’s book series. In addition to writing, Michael has over twenty years professional experience working for Fortune 500 companies in sales, leadership and organizational development across the payroll/human resources, pharmaceutical, and med-tech industries. Michael finds his flow state today from helping organizations transform their culture with a focus on the growth and development of human beings.

Katie P. Desiderio counts her blessings starting with the people in her life, which guides her approach to work where her focus is on every organization’s most important asset – you! Her personality and behavioral attributes emphasize collaboration and all things that keep human beings in focus, which fuels her intrapreneurial spirit.

As the mama of two extraordinary girls, she is committed to the development of rising leaders, namely in the spirit of leading from any seat. Along with her work as a tenured faculty member at Moravian University, Desiderio is Principal Partner in Learning of Proximal Development, LLC, an authorized DiSC partner, specializing in leadership development and the advancement of performance through learning.

Upon completion of her doctorate in Organizational Learning and Leadership, Katie has been co-authoring scholar-practitioner journal articles, conference proceedings, and now this book with her learning partner and friend. Join them on this journey to inspire how you will pollinate the world!

Links:

Book 📕: The Beekeeper: Pollinating Your Organization for Transformative Growth

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love welcomes Bob Silvy, a consultant and trainer specializing in professional services organizations, to discuss Getting Results from Training. Bob emphasizes the importance of designing training programs that focus on measurable results, long-term commitment, and consistent coaching to ensure effectiveness. He shares insights on engaging leadership, tailoring training to organizational goals, and tracking key performance indicators to evaluate success.

Key topics include the importance of leadership buy-in, avoiding “one-and-done” training sessions, and combining training with personalized coaching for maximum impact. Bob also provides actionable strategies for selecting the right trainers, aligning training initiatives with growth objectives, and fostering a culture of continuous improvement. This episode is a must-listen for leaders looking to enhance team performance and achieve sustainable growth.

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Bio:

As a Senior Vice President at American City Business Journals, I worked exclusively with B2B clients across the nation for more than 30 years, having sold directly to decision-makers and managed sales teams.

I’ve been recognized for creating and teaching results-oriented sales training programs for teams and individuals. I help professionals understand how to change sales behavior to produce greater success.

I understand the importance of sales and marketing efforts that are coordinated and focused on measurable results.

I get tremendous satisfaction from creating a high-performance sales environment that consistently exceeds revenue expectations.

Throughout my 15+ years as an active member and sponsor of the Association for Accounting Marketing and Legal Marketing Association, I’ve gained insights from senior marketing, business development and growth leaders.

As Managing Director at Level Four Consulting, based in Kansas City, MO, and serving clients nationwide, I provide sales coaching and training designed to increase business development results for growth-focused accounting and law firms.

Links:

https://www.level4consulting.com/

https://www.linkedin.com/in/bobsilvy/

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love sits down with Stephanie Grober, Marketing and Public Relations Director at Horowitz Agency, to discuss the power of content marketing and thought leadership. Stephanie shares actionable insights on how professionals can build their visibility, establish themselves as industry experts, and generate measurable growth. Whether it’s writing articles, securing speaking engagements, or leveraging awards and media opportunities, Stephanie provides a practical playbook for becoming a trusted voice in your field.

Key topics include identifying areas of expertise, developing consistent content strategies, and repurposing content across platforms for maximum impact. Stephanie also highlights the importance of staying top-of-mind with clients and prospects through regular, high-value content. This episode is a must-listen for attorneys and professionals seeking to build credibility and grow their client base through strategic thought leadership.

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Bio:

Stephanie Grober is the Marketing & Public Relations Director at Horowitz Agency, an integrated marketing and public relations agency with offices in Los Angeles, New York City, and Vancouver (B.C.). Her team works with law firm clients ranging from BigLaw to boutiques, designing and executing content and communications strategies that generate bottom-line growth in measurable ways. Leveraging deep relationships with the press, she delivers high-quality earned media placements for clients and utilizes her extensive marketing background to amplify these results through a multi-channel approach. Stephanie joined Horowitz Agency in 2021 after serving as Marketing and Communications Manager for a Top 50 accounting firm in New York City. 

Links:

Website link: www.HorowitzAgency.com

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniegrober/ 

Keywords:

Thought leadership, content marketing, legal marketing, professional visibility, client growth, Stephanie Grober, Scott Love, The Rainmaking Podcast, PR strategies, marketing for attorneys.

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Scott Love is the founder of The Attorney Search Group, a legal recruiting firm. His practice focuses on partner transitions and law firm mergers, with specialized expertise in recruiting for global law firms in the areas of corporate, finance, private equity, and related practices.

This business experience brings credibility and legitimacy to his speaking presentations at business, association, and legal conferences on the topics of rainmaking and client development. Scott’s easy going presence from the stage, his clean humor, and storytelling style make him a popular speaker at conventions, conferences, and executive retreats.

Scott is the author of Why They Follow: How to Lead with Positive Influence, the co-author of Rainmaker Confidential, and has been quoted in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Bloomberg, The American Lawyer, Above the Law, The Huffington Post, Selling Power Magazine, Business Insider, and many more. 

Scott produces the popular show “The Rainmaking Podcast” which is a top 2 percent podcast. 

Scott is a graduate of the United States Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland, and is a former Surface Warfare Officer.

Seven Strategy Questions with Scott Love

1.        What were the impediments that kept you from reaching your goals?

2.        What were your three greatest achievements?

3.        What was the single greatest missed opportunity?

4.        How can you learn from this?

5.        What trends did you observe that can help you next year?

6.        How can you create synergy and leverage in your area of expertise?

7.        Who are the people who can benefit by knowing you? Look for synergistic strategic alliances.

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In this episode of The Rainmaking Podcast, host Scott Love speaks with Kyle Smith, an expert in leadership and business growth, about how professionals can develop a winning mindset and take control of their career trajectory. Kyle explains that success in business development isn’t just about skill—it’s about mindset, discipline, and intentional action. He emphasizes that the best rainmakers cultivate a growth-oriented attitude, take ownership of their goals, and implement daily habits that lead to long-term success.

Key topics include the power of self-discipline in business development, how to overcome self-doubt and limiting beliefs, and why successful professionals focus on long-term strategy rather than short-term wins. Kyle shares actionable strategies for building confidence, structuring time effectively, and using mental resilience to push through setbacks. He also discusses how leaders can inspire teams to adopt a results-driven mindset, create accountability systems, and leverage high-performance habits for sustainable business growth. This episode provides practical insights for professionals looking to improve their mindset, boost motivation, and achieve consistent success in business development.

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Kyle Smith, CPA, a finance graduate from UT McCombs School of Business, is deeply committed to helping small and medium-sized businesses thrive. He began his career in Austin, gaining experience as an accountant and Controller for various bar and restaurant groups. His passion for guiding SMBs led him to earn his CPA and specialize in cost management accounting as Director of Finance at Celis Brewery. Kyle’s journey continued at Scalefactor, a software development company, where he advised clients across various industries. His ultimate aspiration was realized when he became a co-partner at Strata Cloud Accountants. Kyle specializes in working with business owners to align personal and company goals and help teach businesses the financial acumen needed to hold themselves accountable to those goals. All with the mission to help businesses and business owners be more profitable.

Links:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/kyle-smith-cpa-9582038a/

stratacloudaccountants.com/ 

kyle@stratacloudaccountants.com

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